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Post by beana51 on Nov 5, 2014 10:37:33 GMT -5
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Post by sgtmajor on Nov 6, 2014 2:58:39 GMT -5
Good One Vin!!!!!
Hmmm.....perhaps I need to find me a little blue pill to drop into the tank of my Fiat.
I hadn't heard about a 500X.........The 500L hasn't gone over too well, at least here in California. Perhaps the X will do better.
Cheers,
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Post by bhk on Nov 6, 2014 3:38:16 GMT -5
Why is this in the "Old Roundhouse" forum?!!!
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Post by bhk on Nov 6, 2014 3:41:37 GMT -5
I hadn't heard about a 500X.........The 500L hasn't gone over too well, at least here in California. Perhaps the X will do better. Cheers, So already they move away from the original 500 design, the vehicle becomes larger and before we know it, the retro 500 will be unrecognisible. Why, oh why do car manufacturers DO this?!!!
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Post by beana51 on Nov 6, 2014 8:42:34 GMT -5
Old Pilots Never Die,They Just Buzz Off! Because It was a MISTAKE BNK..we all do make them?? DO IT??..Sorry if I BROKE THE LAW...and UPSET SOME.../Chill out Mate..This place is quite Enough...........
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Post by sgtmajor on Nov 6, 2014 11:10:29 GMT -5
I hadn't heard about a 500X.........The 500L hasn't gone over too well, at least here in California. Perhaps the X will do better. Cheers, So already they move away from the original 500 design, the vehicle becomes larger and before we know it, the retro 500 will be unrecognisible. Why, oh why do car manufacturers DO this?!!! Because they just can't leave a good thing alone. (smile) A few weeks back, I was in Fresno, CA. on business and my Fiat needed service. (Oil change) They had a 1971 500 on the show room floor.....and I was EXTREMELY tempted to purchase it. Of course it was WAY overpriced.....but had been refurbished and looked great!!! I'm wishing now I would have purchased it....but oh well....perhaps another time. (smile) Cheers,
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Post by bhk on Nov 6, 2014 14:56:26 GMT -5
Old Pilots Never Die,They Just Buzz Off! Because It was a MISTAKE BNK..we all do make them?? DO IT??..Sorry if I BROKE THE LAW...and UPSET SOME.../Chill out Mate..This place is quite Enough........... WHOA THERE, Vin! I wasn't having a shot....just wondering why. I thought there may have been a connection of some sort. Chill out, mate!
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Post by bhk on Nov 6, 2014 15:00:11 GMT -5
They had a 1971 500 on the show room floor.....and I was EXTREMELY tempted to purchase it. Of course it was WAY overpriced.....but had been refurbished and looked great!!! I'm wishing now I would have purchased it....but oh well....perhaps another time. (smile) Cheers, Some years ago (jeez....more than "years"...make it "decades"!) I nearly bought a 1960s Fiat 500 that was in good original condition and had been well looked after. I thought it would have been fun to use as a weekend runabout in Canberra. Join the Italian Car Club there and so on. We ended up with MGs instead!
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Post by beana51 on Nov 6, 2014 19:01:15 GMT -5
Had over the years two FIATS...America Is Not Italy ..The sedan 1955 was very underpowered...In 1967 ,I had reason to Drive into NYC..To the then FULTON FISH MARKET...Biggest Fish Market in the world...Total MAFIA controlled..Space???Was the rub..Had to pay off these guys to load...SOO! got a FIAT wagon type car...I had made a Tin form fitted tray..Slide in easy and out..So after getting my stuff..I BUZZED out of there...It was Great..The normal size vehicles had problems....Next to my VW BUS..this FIAT did the job! Like this Pic!!!...The Back door Was The Key Here!
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Post by sgtmajor on Nov 6, 2014 22:48:09 GMT -5
Vin...... a high school classmate of mine had a little red Fiat that looked a lot like your blue one. In Kansas, you could get your drivers license at 14.....however, you could only drive to and from school, or agricultural errands. SO....most of the farm kids had cars....at least the boys, so they could scoot home right after school and get into the fields before dark. Anyway....this classmate of mine had a red Fiat....since I turned 16 before he did, and could drive "Unsupervised".....I would drive him all over town during our lunch hour each day. Loved driving that little Fiat....great little car!!!! Here's a picture of my little red Fiat... I purchased in August of 2012. Probably keep it around a while as it makes a great work car....as you said...easy to find parking and a joy to drive!!! Cheers,
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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2014 4:00:49 GMT -5
Small cars are great for the city - but that's about all I reckon. A friend of mine down here has a little Peugeot 107 with a little turbo diesel engine that I think is manufactured by Toyota (?). She clocks up a reasonably high mileage because of her job and a couple months ago the engine let go on the motorway. Only done under 100k miles but the 3 year warranty was just out by a month or so. It has cost her quite a few €000's just getting hold of a used engine and having it fitted and she's now in a dispute with Peugeot who say that her little car wasn't designed for that kind of use!! OK, not a Fiat, which has never really got over its reputation as a bit of a rust-bucket in the (damp, not California!) UK but there's still no way that I would touch one. Sorry. Each to their own eh Roger
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Post by beana51 on Nov 7, 2014 10:08:52 GMT -5
European Cares As you guys know are were always subject to high gas prices..Italy France England not a breeding place for then Muscle cars. Then the Terrain..Tight medieval city's,trails for roads,income for most low..So they had fine cars suited for their needs..Small,Gas efficient./Maneuverable..All changed now...These Spam cans got popular when In the USA gas got scarce or expensive..Renault's,Fiats VW It was the VW that captured the American and world market//All Young LOONS then needed a BUG...A LOVE BUG.....I too Had a VW..in 1974 got one. After Seeing them being used by the HIPPY FREAKS in 1969 at Woodstock.The Mini Bus..GREAT for 4 wild kids and a Wife and I...GREAT..No Seat belts,Lousy Heating..No Air no GPS no Power anything, and it was KISS...Keep It Simple Stupid....I yearn for that VW till today..Great Memories!!..Driving One hand on wheel the other slapping down my 4 CHIMPS.on long trips//From NY to Florida DISNEY WORLD!...WOW! This Pic Is Zactly what i had!!..Have fun guys
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Post by sgtmajor on Nov 7, 2014 11:01:09 GMT -5
Small cars are great for the city - but that's about all I reckon. I can't say I completely agree with you Roger. I had a SMART Car prior to this little Fiat. A 3 cylinder and another very small car. I used it for several years of work, and traded it in for the Fiat in 2012. My little SMART Car, while designed/intended, I suppose for a "City Car"......had a few miles shy of 130,000 k. (little over 80k miles) when I got rid of her. I made 3 trips to Kansas and back in that little car......24hr drive of about 1350 miles (2173k) each direction. The little car performed flawlessly for 4 years.....never any problems, although I did have to replace the car battery a few weeks prior to my trading. I believe, the small car is only limited to how long you can stay in the saddle, so-to-speak. With proper maintenance, I think folks have proven the combustion engine can run for many, many years.....look at all the turn of the century antique engines still operating today. Granted, probably not operated on a daily basis, however, great improvements have been made since they were first designed. Heck...in my lifetime.....as a kid, when a car reached 100k miles, it was really considered "worn out" or needing major work. It's not uncommon anymore to hear of 300k, 400k 500k or more miles on engines of today. So.....as you stated, it is up to each person's needs etc. My little Fiat, as my SMART Car, are my little "throw away" cars. Since I know I'm driving the wheels off of them for my daily commuter, I wanted something cheap and fun to drive, that is inexpensive to maintain, easy to park, etc. Therefore, as my company pays my mileage, I let the company pay for my little throw away's and keep the nicer car for the family. (smile) I still have my truck too.....why....I don't know...(smile), but will probably sell it sometime in the next year or so. BTW....here's a shot I took on one of my trips back home. This was taken in Kinsley, Kansas (where my father grew up)............. of my SMART Car, with bicycle on the back, headed for my home in mid-state Kansas. On one of my trips back to Kansas, I actually headed back to California by way of Colorado for some bike riding for about a week. Colorado was a beautiful trip....Rocky Mountains are beautiful, however extremely high (Interstate 70) and the speed limits in all states are 70mph.....75 in many of the states (113k - 120k). My little SMART Car had no problem keeping up with the traffic and driving those speeds hours upon hours....in fact, with no cruise control, I had to be very watchful, as it was easy to exceed the speed limit............I actually received a ticket to prove it. (smile) Cheers,
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Post by bhk on Nov 7, 2014 14:39:05 GMT -5
I disagree with Roger also, and only because I have experienced long-distance driving in small-engined cars down here for many years. Our current cars are the Honda Jazz (2012) and the MX-5 (1991). The former has racked up more kms in the past 7 months than it did for the previous 17 months and has not missed a beat. Even to have the car serviced is a 160 km round trip!
The MX-5 has now over 235,000 kms on it and, apart from an ancillary (the A/C compressor) karking it about three years ago the only engine problem is an oil weep from the cam-cover!
Until I moved into the world of company-supplied cars (1984 - 1993 and then 2006 - 2012) I had owned small cars, with no engine more than 1.5 litres. In fact, my first car was a Hillman Imp (1966) and it was 900 cc and I went down from there to a Honda Scamp 2-cylinder 600 cc! In both cases I would drive regularly from Sydney to my parent's place at Port Macquarie - 360 miles in each direction - every fortnight or three weeks over a couple of years. That little Honda would sit on 60 mph for ever! Neither car had any major problem and yet the engine technology back then was nowhere near what it is today.
Australia, like the USA, used to be the home of big-engined cars......the average family car was a four-door, 5/6 seater, six-cylinder of at least 3 litres, or eight-cylinder of 5 litres. However, times have changed since fuel prices went berserk a decade or so ago and the average car here now is a five-door, 5 seater with a four-cylinder of 1.5 litres capacity and we still drive halfway across the country just to do the shopping.
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Post by beana51 on Nov 7, 2014 19:32:06 GMT -5
Sorry Guys..God love Ya all..but For a coast to coast trip?/Give me a Caddy,Lincoln,Big Mercedes//or a Bentley.LOADED!.A Couch On Wheels!!.Better yet a FORD EXPLORER..to haul my junk.....No Spam or Sardine cans for me....Gas is shown that its coming down..and it will..RIP for electric Cars Fer sure...As It does and always as it has..BIG CARS SELL when fuel is low in cost!And In BIG COUNTRIES? Ya can bet on it!
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