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Post by Kofi on Sept 18, 2005 21:05:46 GMT -5
whatever happened to that monocoupe in the GW3 teaser pics? That one looked cool! Been released
Kofi
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Post by Jakemaster on Sept 18, 2005 21:14:03 GMT -5
where?
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Post by kimber on Sept 19, 2005 0:00:44 GMT -5
Could you add some more trains??
I like trains!!
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Post by Kofi on Sept 19, 2005 0:29:10 GMT -5
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Post by nobicus on Sept 19, 2005 2:24:43 GMT -5
The best resource that I have seen for GW simmers is available through the Beacon. You have the two Aircraft Year Books which, if you actually read the text is an absolutely amazing in depth report of civil aviation in the two years that are available to read. The description of all the landing fields of the USA contained in the other document is so detailed it even tells you what was painted on the hangar roofs. In ordinary simming when one looks at the number of folk involved with either a VA or some form of mutual group to further a common interest in a specific to do with aviation it should be possible to analyse where the greatest GW interest would lie and what we, the public, are prepared to pay for. I think that the airship package will be a winner and would have been a first suggestion. I think you need to find a State that was really active in early aviation, has good scenery, some challenging flying and the basis of a number of intermeshed companies in competition. This way you could offer the aeroplanes, accurate scenery (detailed in the year books) and give folk the opportunity to create some Golden Wings era VA’s however small. Perhaps if the aircraft were similar you could offer some of the “expeditionary” type scenarios, that seemed to be mounted frequently in the 1930’s. Just my twopennyworth. Don’t try Imperial Airways ‘cos we have just started that!!
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Post by Dan on Sept 19, 2005 5:55:23 GMT -5
Bill, I'm glad you asked! Over the past year or so I've searched for three specific airplanes, which I believe two are now being developed. One is the Travel Air Mystery ship, which Kevin Dryan is working on one and the Mr. Mulligen, which Paul is developing a similiar DGA-15P. The other one which I cannot find anywhere is the Pitcairn PA-8 Mail Plane. I was recently reading a number of articles about the early airmail routes, pilots, and the planes they flew - they used many different types, but the one that looks the best is the PA-8 www.aerofiles.com/pit-pa8.jpg. There are other Pitcairns, as noted on this site www.aerofiles.com/_pitc.html, but believe the best looking authentic one as a mail carrier is the PA-8. There are number of sites that discuss the early US early airmail service - incredible the seat-of-the-pants flying they had to do and all without a GPS!! I think the early routes, planes, beacons, etc., would all fit very well in GW3. There could be some challenging flights developed and mapped out - in all types of weather. I remember one snowy flight by Lindbergh in the movie "The Spirit of St. Louis". Here are some of the sites - interesting reading if nothing else: www.airmailpioneers.org/history/Sagahistory.htm www.airmailpioneers.org/ www.navfltsm.addr.com/howitbegan.htmwww.charleslindbergh.com/airmail/Dan …it’s great being a kid again – without the glue! ;D
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Post by ScruffyDuck on Sept 19, 2005 6:13:51 GMT -5
I'd certainly be interested in the Pitcairn
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Post by attaway on Sept 19, 2005 11:14:47 GMT -5
Hi Bill:
I'd like to second Kofi's Northrop Gamma. Fun plane!
If you wanted to do a flying boat, I'll second the Martin China Clipper. Shes a beautiful artifact. The S-40 'flying forest' might also be fun.
Keep up the great work!
Stephen
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Post by foreigndevil on Sept 19, 2005 12:55:32 GMT -5
The Martin Clipper would be nice, too, indeed!
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Post by simonovman on Sept 19, 2005 14:34:43 GMT -5
Pitcairn is a good idea, as is the Gamma.
The trouble with trying to reply to a question like this is that there are a lot of planes that are already available as downloads, but that really are not up to the best standards of modeling. (Most typical problem: poorly done VCs.) There are several of these that I would really, really like to see redone and brought up to Bill Lyons quality.
But mentioning them in a public forum like this is liable to ruffle some feathers, because we never know who's going to be reading these posts. Then it gets back to the designer and maybe he feels offended because somebody said there was room for improvement. I've seen that happen in a couple of other flight sim fora.
Anyway it doesn't really matter, does it? ANY Lyons production is going to be good and we're all going to want it, isn't that right? I think Bill Lyons could do the Batplane and make me like it.
There are three names that will always cause me to automatically get any airplane they make: Milton Shupe, Yannicke Levigne, and Bill Lyons. Build whatever you want to build, Mr. Lyons; we already want it!
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Post by Dan on Sept 19, 2005 15:01:42 GMT -5
I'll second that - and - still want the Pitcairn!!
Dan
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Post by reddog on Sept 19, 2005 15:56:36 GMT -5
There are three names that will always cause me to automatically get any airplane they make: Milton Shupe, Yannicke Levigne, and Bill Lyons. Build whatever you want to build, Mr. Lyons; we already want it! to this I'd add Steve Myers!
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Post by sundog on Sept 19, 2005 16:09:56 GMT -5
I like the Pitcarin idea. I really love the Autogyro that came with GH. That thing's a blast to fly around in. I also like Bill's boatplanes. I don't think he can build enough of those. As such, the Martin Clipper sounds good. I am going to concentrate on the interwar warbirds. Right now the few I have on my plate are the A-8 Shrike, since I have excellent prints, the P-26A (I should have good interior info soon) and the Douglas B-7. The B-7 I have no interior info on. I also have the B-10 on the list, but the only decent three view I have is for a Balsa plane. I also was thinking the Boeing F4B-4, which I have great info on, but I am waiting for enough carrier info to do one of the jeep carriers.(Edit: Doh, they didn't have escort carriers in the 30's. Looks like the Ranger would be the smallest I could model for the 30's) Anyone can land on the full size CV's I am doing these in the order of whatever one I get all the info I need first basis. I'll prolly have to make a trip to the USAF museum to get the info I need. The most difficult part though, is finding cockpit info. But if there is one plane from the 30's that I would love to see Bill model, it would be the Grumman Duck. I, along with everyone else who has Paul Matt drawings, have the excellent three view drawings for it. It's the interior info that is diffcult to come by, as usual. Oh, one more plane I would love to see get the Bill Lyons touch? The Boeing Stratoliner (Model 307). That might be a bit past the era he likes, but as long as he's asking I know Bill also said he was looking at the P-6E. I would like to request you make an excellent Selfridge airfield to go with it, if you do. Oh, and the Lockheed Orion. We need a good Lockheed Orion. if you don't do it, maybe we can talk Tim Conrad into doing it. I know he has the Paul Matt info I'd better stop now...lol. So, to summarize for Bill, this is the list I propose. - Pitcairn AG - Martin Clipper - Grumman Duck - Boeing Model 307 Stratoliner - P-6E (Which is apparently already on your list) - Lockheed Orion (To Clarify, this is the single engine Orion, not the more modern four engined TP already modeled well by FS-KBT ).
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Post by Dan on Sept 19, 2005 16:49:50 GMT -5
There are three names that will always cause me to automatically get any airplane they make: Milton Shupe, Yannicke Levigne, and Bill Lyons. Build whatever you want to build, Mr. Lyons; we already want it! to this I'd add Steve Myers! . . . and David Eckert (Daviator), Tim Piglet Conrad, and Stuart Green. All these gifted builders, as well as many others, "consistently" develop detailed, high quality, and exciting aircraft that are a pleasure to fly and look at - where would we be without them - probably asleep on the couch!! Dan …it’s great being a kid again – without the glue! ;D
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Post by jimslost on Sept 19, 2005 21:41:10 GMT -5
Just a quick addition to Dan S's suggestion to visit http://www.airmailpioneers.org: They have reprinted (or recreated) the airmail service's "Pilot's Log of Distances, Landmarks, and Flying Directions for the entire route from New York to San Francisco, circa 1921. I printed it out and flew it with Steve Meyers' Fleet, discovering in the process a few minor errors (their heading out of Bellefonte to Cleveland is 25 degrees off and places you about 85 miles east of Cleveland when you hit the lake), and it's a blast. When I get time, I'll take Bill Lyons' Travel Air 4000 back eastbound. jim
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