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Post by Bookman on Feb 20, 2006 17:55:58 GMT -5
Ok, I couldn't resist that old Monty Python line. But, the fact is, I've been working on something new that I'd like you folks to preview and comment on. I'm open to ideas, suggestions, etc. At this point it's not ready for prime-time, so please don't advertise this yet. There's no link from the Beacon as yet. Well, here it is: www.oldbeacon.com/misc-new/fs-adv-intro.htmPlease let me know if this is something everyone would be interested in. Thanks KB. PS: More posting here soon but I'm just wrapping up a busy online tecahing term.
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Post by Boomer on Feb 22, 2006 1:03:36 GMT -5
Great stuff Kevin! I intend to try the "Filming the Adventure" flight
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Post by greybeardgil on Feb 22, 2006 11:56:43 GMT -5
Super Kevin!
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Post by cptroyce on Feb 26, 2006 0:40:23 GMT -5
Terrific!! Wonderful idea.. Can't wait for the rest of the "flight adventures" to be activated.
Regards, Royce
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Post by Bookman on Feb 27, 2006 21:36:21 GMT -5
Well, I hope to get things going with this project. But, I would appreciate input -- thoughts, ideas, critisisms...etc. K
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Post by cptroyce on Feb 27, 2006 22:26:50 GMT -5
The history and research of these flights is fine..IMHO but perhaps a detailed flight plan for those that would want to duplicate exact historical flights in FS
Regards, Royce
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Post by Craig on Aug 16, 2006 12:54:15 GMT -5
Hi There I was wondering if anybody has a 3-view of Jimmy Angels Flamingo, as I am thinking of building it.
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Post by Bookman on Aug 16, 2006 21:35:19 GMT -5
Ok, You stirred me from my slumber with your amazing request!
I searched (and continue to search) through my files and notes tonight but so far I've turned up no plans or 3-view.
This will require some higher order logic, thinking and research powers.
So, I'm on to it.
I've fired off an email to the NASM (Smithsonian Air & Space Museum) staff for assistance.
Let's see what they turn up.
I've done some basic work with several of the curatorial staff in the past two years (via email) and have at least got their ear...
Kevin
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Post by Bookman on Aug 16, 2006 22:33:44 GMT -5
Ok, After further research, I can see why it might be difficult to find 3-views. There is a lot of confusing data as to the "who and why" of this airplane!
Aerofiles (a credible internet resource) states that the Flamingo was built by Ryan but...
According to The Juptner U.S. Civil Aircraft Series (vol 2), the Flamingo was actually built by Metal Aircraft Corporation in Cincinnati, Ohio.
In 1929, Lunken Airport (LUK) , near Cincinnati, Ohio was the home of the the struggling Metal Aircraft Corporation, which built metal monoplanes called the Flamingo (built near the airfield). Of the twenty-one airframes built, only one survives today -- in South America! Guess which airplane that might be!
Ok, so who cares? Well, it makes things hard to find when one has the wrong information (ok, so I teach research classes at my college...). The point is that, while I can't find plans for the Flamingo, I do have plans for an airplane -- very -- similar in size and shape to airplane in question -- the Hamilton H47.
More information coming.....
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Post by Bookman on Aug 16, 2006 22:37:09 GMT -5
The Airplane The Flamingo was an eight place airplane, powered by a Pratt & Whitney Wasp engine of 450hp. Angel's Flamingo, was named "El Rio Caroni."
At least twenty-one examples of this model were built, but the Rio Caroni is the sole survivor.
Built by the All Metal Aircraft Corporation, the Flamingo was a model G-2-W (c/n 11) and registered NC-94873; sold 08/03/36 to James Crawford Angel and partners; later it was registered by a Joel Eli Meachan, of Phoenix Arizona on 01/06/37.
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Post by Bookman on Aug 16, 2006 22:41:15 GMT -5
As stated in my Adventure page, after its eventful landing, the Rio Caroni was abandoned on top of the Auyantepui, to remain there until the early months of 1970. Jimmie's youngest son, Roland, went to Angel Falls in 1965 accompanied by the writer Carl Mydans and found the Flamingo airplane, the "El Rio Caroni" still on the same location where his parents had abandoned 28 years before; many years of exposure to harsh tropical sun and rain bleached airplane, although the structure in general was reported to be in the good conditions it had so many years back. In 1970, as part of the activities related to their 50th anniversary, the Fuerza Aerea Venezolana (FAV) mounted an operation to rescue the airplane. The FAV personnel under the Command of Coronel Edgar Suarez Mier y Teran and of Gustavo Fernandez, acting as the chief of the base for the "Operacion Auyantepui" disassembled it, and using a Bell UH-1H helicopter to transport the airplane, first to Canaima, on 6 February, 1970 and later on a Fairchild C-123 was used to transport the airplane from Canaima to Caracas, where it was restored. As a testament to the rugged construction of the airplane, when it was taken apart for transportation to Canaima, structurally the airframe was in very good shape; the battery still had a charge! Controversy has also followed the Rio Caroni; there was a dispute of ownership between the Venezuelan Air Force, who at first had assumed ownership of the airplane and the residents of Ciudad Bolivar until 1971, when the FAV informed the newspaper El Universal that they would return the airplane to Ciudad Bolivar. After its restoration, it was first displayed on a park in Canaima (Parque Ruiz Pineda), not far from the Ciudad Bolivar airport's terminal. Then, it was moved to the Museo Aeronautico de Maracay, until 1980 when it was moved back to Ciudad Bolivar. It was displayed on a traffic circle in front of the airport, where it was hit by a car. Vandalism has taken its toll, and there are many parts missing from the airplane. There have been many plans formulated to build a metallic structure over this historic airplane, to preserve it from the harsh elements prevalent in this region of South America, but nothing has been done. There is also a movement in Venezuela, to have the Rio Caroni returned to the top of the Auyantepui, where they say, it belongs. The Venezuelan Government has declared the Rio Caroni a National Monument. (Reliable Source: www.salto-angel.com/history.htm)
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Post by Bookman on Aug 16, 2006 22:51:27 GMT -5
Ok, So here's my thought. I think the Hamilton (for which I have a 3-view) would make a nice "stand in" for the Flamingo. What do you fellows think? The Real McCoyThe Understudy
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Post by Craig on Aug 17, 2006 13:17:11 GMT -5
Hi there,
They look quite similar, if you could e-mail me the plans I'll have a go at modeling it. Probably design the flamingo and use the photos as reference, thanks!
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Post by Bookman on Aug 17, 2006 21:33:33 GMT -5
I'll do better than that! Click the link below and get the files directlty from my server. I look forward to your progress. I too would enjoy taking on the challenge of finding the Falls. Heck, if you get the thing done, I'll set up a flight and supply some additional materials to help us all become prospectors like Jimmy! These are the small version. Click on the link below to access the very large version! Good Luck www.oldbeacon.com/temp/hamilton_plans.jpg
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Post by jimslost on Aug 17, 2006 22:32:20 GMT -5
The Hamilton has a fair amount of history of its own. Throw Northwest colors on it and discover the joys of flying drafty all metal airplanes through the upper great plains in February!
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