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Post by windrunner on Jul 27, 2006 3:46:06 GMT -5
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Post by jimslost on Jul 27, 2006 11:03:26 GMT -5
Thats a Buhl Senior Airsedan. Certified in Jan 1929 as an eight passenger transport, it really didn't fit into the market and came in at a bad time to boot. Only a few were built before the Depression pretty much crushed the market for such airplanes.
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Post by Kofi on Jul 27, 2006 17:25:10 GMT -5
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Post by windrunner on Jul 28, 2006 1:23:03 GMT -5
Thanks for the info. That's an interesting plane, how many of these planes are forgotten and unkown to the great public? there are so many designs that comed out from small "factories" and individual immagination! it seems the Depression killed a lot of them.
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Post by bhk on Jul 28, 2006 19:44:21 GMT -5
... there are so many designs that comed out from small "factories" and individual immagination! it seems the Depression killed a lot of them. Exactly the same thing happened in the automobile industry, Damian. Bruce
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Post by windrunner on Jul 30, 2006 3:05:32 GMT -5
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Post by jimslost on Jul 30, 2006 9:41:11 GMT -5
There is one other Buhl under restoration at Flabob in California. I saw it there first in 1967, a bare fuselage seemingly derelict by the side of a building. Now Ed Marquart (designer of the Marquart Charger homebuilt) is putting it back together and from what I saw last summer, it's going to be an award-winner.
BTW, although it says Packard on the nose (this particular airframe was factory-built with a Packard diesel engine), that's actually a Wright J6-9 on the nose. As hard as it is to keep a Wright running these days, I guess it's impossible to find a running Packard.
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Post by scubakobe on Jul 30, 2006 11:05:38 GMT -5
There is one other Buhl under restoration at Flabob in California. I saw it there first in 1967, a bare fuselage seemingly derelict by the side of a building. Now Ed Marquart (designer of the Marquart Charger homebuilt) is putting it back together and from what I saw last summer, it's going to be an award-winner. BTW, although it says Packard on the nose (this particular airframe was factory-built with a Packard diesel engine), that's actually a Wright J6-9 on the nose. As hard as it is to keep a Wright running these days, I guess it's impossible to find a running Packard. That's a rather odd looking airplane, maybe I will get to see it putting around on the taxiway someday.
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Post by jimslost on Jul 30, 2006 16:27:48 GMT -5
You ought to wrangle an introduction to Mr. Marquart, Kobbe, he is a fascinating man with an incredible collection of old airplanes and an even greater knowledge of aviation history.
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Post by scubakobe on Jul 31, 2006 1:54:58 GMT -5
Maybe I can start meeting people around the airport on foggy days, like today. ;D Flight was canceled, all of my excitement brewing up to fly the 172 and the fog did away with my flight! I don't know anyone but a few people at the flight school and one student. I just don't want to get in some trouble for walking around the airport, my dad is usually eyeballed alot when he is videotaping things. Although I do think it would be fun to tour the airport and maybe check out a couple hangars (Such as Hangar 1! ) and meet some nice folks. Just have to get the courage, or rid of the shyness, to do so!
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Post by windrunner on Jul 31, 2006 12:14:11 GMT -5
Go ahead Kobbe and take a look to those hangers! you may know an interesting plane to fly some day.
Thanks for the info Jim, I'd like to know if this plane is an original or a replica (the Bellanca certainly is).
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Post by jimslost on Jul 31, 2006 22:27:16 GMT -5
I started my aviation career pumping gas at an airport when I was 16, Kobbe, and quickly learned that almost all pilots are extremely open to young people who show an interest in aviation. On the other hand, video taping at an airport can excite the paranoia in a lot of pilots, hehehe.
Windrunner, both the plane in your pictures and the one Mr. Marquart is restoring are originals. My data indicates that NC 8451 was built in 1929 as a CA-3D with a Wright J6-9, then converted at the factory to a CA-3E with the Packard Diesel. The story I heard is that it was found derelict in South America and brought back for restoration, sans engine. When they rebuilt it, they went back to the Wright because it was easier to find. I believe the one at Flabob is an earlier CA-5 or CA-5A; in any event, he has a J5 for it. I tried to get some pictures, but the hanger is dark and they didn't come out. Besides which, the plane is still a long way from completion.
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Post by jimgm6juu on Sept 14, 2006 9:25:56 GMT -5
Very interesting aircraft, the buhl would make an interesting addition to the flightsim 1930's collection. There must have been literally hundreds of small manufacturers in the 1920's and 30's.
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Post by Bookman on Sept 14, 2006 18:29:34 GMT -5
That beautiful red plane is the "Miss Veedol" and I for one would enjoy a chance to fly her... The Miss Veedol was the name of a Bellanca J-300 Special that completed the first non-stop flight across the Pacific Ocean. On 5 October, 1931, Clyde Pangborn with co-pilot Hugh Herndon landed his plane, the Miss Veedol, in the hills of East Wenatchee and became the first person to fly non-stop across the Pacific Ocean. The 41 hour flight from Sabishiro Beach, Misawa, Aomori Prefecture, Japan won him the 1931 Harmon Trophy, symbolizing the greatest achievement in flight for that year. www.spiritofwenatchee.org/index.html
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Post by crashnburns on Sept 14, 2006 19:10:50 GMT -5
I have long been a fan of Buhl Aircraft as they were built less than 3 miles from my house. The building that housed Buhl is now used by a local car mechanic. More info on NC 8451 at: home.earthlink.net/~ralphcooper/pimagi46.htmCrash
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