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Post by dalecaruso on Nov 9, 2006 21:05:34 GMT -5
Here are a few screen shots of the PanAir Amazon Route ... The Route follows the course of the Amazon from Belem .. along the coast to Iquitos. At this point I have been working on the Manaus - Iquitos. Here are a PanAir Catalina at Codajaz (this was not included in FS9 ... so it was a matter of locating it ... and then populating it with buildings. notice the boat heading out to eet the flight. The remaining two screen shots are of a PanAir Sikorsky S38 (just finsihed painting that one up today - it wasn't the intent to repain a flight model.... just sort of happened that way. The first at Coari and the second at Tefe.
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Post by Admin on Nov 10, 2006 0:37:37 GMT -5
Looks good, Dale
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Post by windrunner on Nov 10, 2006 4:16:53 GMT -5
Hello Dale! welome back, lol.
interesting project, indeed. To fly the Amazonas in a Sikorsky sounds like all an adventure.
Cool!
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Post by dalecaruso on Nov 10, 2006 6:55:08 GMT -5
This is what did it for me .... found this reporduction of their route schedules. That and the fact I have two long time friends who live in Manaus ... husband and wife and he owns an air service there (they have been trying to talk me into moving there to spend remaining years doing what I love best... flying) From the little bits of info collected so far ... these routes were served by the Sikorsky S-38, the Fairchild A-942-A (see a posting made by another memeber on this one - definately lacking in flightsim - in the interim, I am using the S-39, sort of like what PanAM did with one of their Flying boat models, waiting on the Martin to be built. Later the S-43 and Catalina's were brought into serivce along the Amazon. Still debating whether to upload all this when finished (requires Lago FSE and RWY12) - as I have never figured out Flightsim's upload process and have had mixed luck with Avsim. However, if anyone whants any of this ... is there a process for uploading to Old Hanger DOwnloads??? or just drop me a line and I'll send it along personally .... Dale
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Post by lifejogger on Nov 10, 2006 8:23:24 GMT -5
Hi Dale Looks like great scenery. Tom can give you details about uploading to The Old Hangar. An upload of those flight schedules would be nice too.
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Post by dalecaruso on Nov 10, 2006 8:59:41 GMT -5
Would be happy to. Also, this is what I have been able to piece together regarding PanAir during our Golden Wings era.. regarding Aircraft and some of their operations. Panair do Brasil owned a fleet of six Commodores operated by the short lived New York, Rio and Buenos Aires Line (NYRBA) in 1929. In 1929 the Brazilian government insisted on registering an operating subsidiary of NYRBA in Brazil for the portion of their routes over Brazilian territory. This company was registered as NYRBA do Brasil. Meanwhile, Juan Trippe, CEO of Pan American Airways couldn't abide by the thought of another airline providing competition to his US overseas "chosen instrument" and persuaded the US government not to give the upstart airline the subsidies it would need to maintain operations. Dirty dealings? Politics? You bet. Trippe then purchased NYRBA's stock and took over the line. Thus it was that, on 21 November 1930, Panair do Brasil was born as a wholly owned subsidiary of Pan American Airways.. In 1931 with the allocation of new ICAO country codes, P-BDAA became PP-PAA. Panair do Brasil’s S-38s were used on routes to open up the Amazon region in the early 1930s. Basically these routes ran from Belem to Manaus (with many intermediate stops). In the later 1930s the service was expanded to terminate in either Tabatinga or Porto Velho. The airline had six S-38s when it was founded in 1930. Four of them came from the NYRBA Line. A seventh S-38B was acquired in 1932 and registered PP-PAM. In 1935 Pan American ordered six unique little amphibians for their services up the Amazon River. It was known at Fairchild as the Model 91 "Jungle Clipper", although the correct designation is A-942-A.. In the event it turned out that the sparsely operated route from Para to Manaus did not require all six and only two ever went to Pan do Brasil. It was discovered that 90% of their operation was from water and thus in 1937 they were both converted to true flying boat status. The removal of the undercarriage and its retracting mechanism afforded more payload.. By 1945 more airstrips had been built in the hinterland of Brazil permitting the operation of Lodestars and DC-3s into this area. Sadly the Fairchilds, along with a couple of remaining Sikorsky S-38s and a Commodore were chopped up at Manaus. Panair do Brasil were also owners of the Lockheed Electra. Since the Electras ordered by Pan American were all destined to operate over rather inhospitable country, the airline specified that they be powered by 450 hp Pratt & Whitney Wasp SC1 engines. Panair do Brasil operated half a dozen or so Sikorsky S43s amphibians. Two were delivered new and the others were ex Pan American aircraft. Panair do Brasil would eventually go on to operate some 25 DC-3s, mostly ex C-47s or C-53s. Another PanAir aircraft was the Lockheed Lodestar. They were first delivered to Pan American as and almost immediately seconded to Panair do Brasil. PanAir had a total fleet of fourteen of these machines. The airline actually preferred the Lockheeds to the DC-2/DC-3 since they cruised at somewhat higher speeds. Panair do Brasil had no less than fifteen Lockheed Constellations in 1946. All came from the mother company, Pan American. They were used on trans Atlantic routes from Rio to Paris, London, Rome and even to Cairo and Istanbul. For their Amazonian services after WW II Panair owned a fleet of eight or so PBY-5As.
Dale
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Post by dalecaruso on Nov 10, 2006 9:07:17 GMT -5
Their inventory does give us an idea that two aircraft are MIA ... hint-hint for talented aircraft designers ... the Fairchild ... as has been mentioned elsewhere and the Lockheed Lodestar, which to my knowledge is only available in FS2000 and FS98, at this time. I know the Howard is similar ... but.....
Dale
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Post by dalecaruso on Nov 10, 2006 13:56:36 GMT -5
Re-painted a Pan Alaska L10 over to PanAir Do Brazil S.A. so it definately won't be one to upload, as really all I did was some pasting.... but this is fairly close to PanAir's version. Although I chose for the momnent not to place the reg # on the side. But that may change as I noticed that I forgot to remove the "Lockheed" emblem from the inside tail. Dale
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Post by dalecaruso on Nov 10, 2006 14:00:50 GMT -5
this was on a flight from Tefe to Fonte Boa ... next stop Porto Afonsos ... that is if I can find it. Not included with Flightsim. Trying to figure out its exact location. Did find this little sire.. www.motivation-tools.com/notes/amazon_photos.htmscroll down ... three ofr four neat shots of the current "airstrip" ... would imagine it hsn't changed much. right at the river's edge. Can see a flotplane tied up at the dock.. a shot of the flield with three Helo Couriers .. AND a PBY Dale
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Post by bhk on Nov 10, 2006 16:36:44 GMT -5
I love this sort of information......and if you can create one or more Flights for FS9 based on the PanAir timetable, please do make them available, Dale. Bruce
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Post by dalecaruso on Nov 10, 2006 19:27:27 GMT -5
Darn, couldn't find the Long and Lat for Porto Afonsos ... but did for a small town called Jutai, which is located in the the general vacinity //// SO... Here is Jutai Coundn't find photos ... but it gives the "feel" for the typical river community. Dale
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Post by bhk on Nov 10, 2006 20:43:41 GMT -5
This is what did it for me .... found this reporduction of their route schedules.... Dale, the references to Constellation and Catalina.....I assume that is the aircraft type that is being noted? If so, it explains why flights 246, 247 and 243 were non-stop between Belem and Manaus I gather that this schedule would be from the 1950's sometime...is that correct? Bruce.
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Post by Admin on Nov 10, 2006 21:16:19 GMT -5
Dale- Check your PMs
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Post by dalecaruso on Nov 10, 2006 23:09:54 GMT -5
Tom... got you message and did respond. Yes...Bruce ... if I recall ... 1956 here is the other part of the schedule I found.... A GREAT source of information for me has been Airline Timetable Images .... www.timetableimages.com/Dale
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Post by bhk on Nov 11, 2006 0:54:45 GMT -5
Dale, Thanks. Yes....that site is a good sorce of timetable info but it's a pity that there are only a few that show more than the cover. I'd love to see the schedules for a lot of interesting 1930's airlines.
Bruce
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