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Post by ScruffyDuck on Mar 20, 2012 1:57:35 GMT -5
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Post by Tom Constantine on Mar 20, 2012 7:06:56 GMT -5
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Post by ScruffyDuck on Mar 21, 2012 4:44:06 GMT -5
Me too Tom. And in my experience influencing the future of anything is not achieved by bashing it and the folks who created it. I am not sure I understand why those folks who clearly have interests not satisfied by Flight are still hacking away. FS9/FSX are still there and seem to have what they want! |
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Post by AirCoaster on Mar 21, 2012 10:50:18 GMT -5
Good interview. The interview stimulated some thoughts involving new content. Ok, what I am going to suggest is not what I would expect MS to end up offering, but more of a way that I took Mr. Howard's comments. More of a thought stimulation thing towards others to let them see the scope of what he has said.
FLIGHT isn't offering the world, they are offering large areas to fly in, which seems to be more the case with FLIGHT than before with FS. The 20 minute, 30 minute, and one hour flight may be possible in FLIGHT, but the popular consensous goes to under one hour. That said, and speaking in terms of Golden Age flying, this could mean adventure packs which could include the first airmail route, New York to Chicago. Missions could include several short hops with timings involved for efficient mail delivery. Scoring would be done on how well you followed the route, and ETAs at each airfield, and so forth. This could also be done with early passenger flights using aircraft like the Boeing 40. Just some suggested concepts that could be feasible in FLIGHT.
Now, before you go on about how MS wouldn't cater to as small a percentage of a community like ours, think of all those new younger folks who have never experience delivering mail in one of the old radial engined aircraft like the DH-4. Or, even flying at night using beacons to guide you, not to mention combining that with weather conditions.Whether or not MS and FLIGHT will cater to any of these niches remains to be seen. Some find historical events to be fascinating.
I think the one thing we need to do is to let the FLIGHT team know what we care about, and how it could help with the new populus. But, remember one thing, they are going to cater to the majority of flyers that use FLIGHT, which will also include the new gang. Sure, we are the old school supporters of Flight Simulator, but if we want in on the new directions FLIGHT is going, we need to make our thoughts known, and that includes thinking in terms of the FLIGHT team's concept of the new crowd.
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Post by Tom Constantine on Mar 21, 2012 11:20:51 GMT -5
Brilliant idea John. With your permission I will quote your message on the beta forum. It might not be on the top of their list but look at all the historic aircraft they put in FS9 and Pioneer airport is fully detailed in FSX. What was the free DLC? A Stearman Biplane. The idea of historic modules appeals to me and I bet we are not alone.
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Post by beana51 on Mar 21, 2012 11:32:25 GMT -5
Yes I Agree with all here...........One thing I learned flying over HAWAII,that it is an Alien World.....What with Lava Flow Fields,Deep canyons,Flaming Earth,Rugged coast lines, in now way looks like my North East...Snow included.....What a great experience FLIGHT did a great job Scenery Wise!......This my grand kids seeing this remarked that also....They also showed great interest in The General Aviation planes...Always the Bi -Plane..Totally alien to a whole generation removed...That caught their attention.....My FS9,and FSX, is VERBOTEN to the Lil Monsters,But They have full access to FLIGHT.....They go at it with a Clean Mind,No preconceived concepts,with eyes wide open and no fear....A JOY to watch them...How Quick the controls come to them..almost instinctively...If I instilled an interest in FLYING in them,then FLIGHT is worth ever CENT I did not spend.......,,Yes I got HAWAII all of it,A Mere few bucks!......Looking Forward to Alaska!,and what planes they may offer...My Gut tells me a "BEAVER" may be in the ALASKA...No not the Rodent...But the very symbol of Flying Alaska...Hawaii is...and Most Of All..."MAN ITS FUN!"...Never flew so much on any Sim...No SLEW STUFF here.... Great Vacation! HAPPY LANDINGS!!
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Post by AirCoaster on Mar 21, 2012 12:18:05 GMT -5
Brilliant idea John. With your permission I will quote your message on the beta forum. It might not be on the top of their list but look at all the historic aircraft they put in FS9 and Pioneer airport is fully detailed in FSX. What was the free DLC? A Stearman Biplane. The idea of historic modules appeals to me and I bet we are not alone. Certainly Tom, feel free to have with it. I have to agree, there are always those of the newer generations that find historical references of all sorts fascinating. Think about it, how many times have you thought about a historical event and thought, wow, I wonder what it was like to be there, and do those things? With aviators and armchair aviators this holds true in many respects. I think FS9 was the only true historical sims we have had. Airmail flights, the Schneider, Pulitzer, Thompson, Bendix Trophy Races, the World War events involving aircraft, and so many other scenarios that can have added content that would allow the user to experience FLIGHT in a new but old way. Radio ranging, and learning dead reckoning navigation, and early navigational equipment all could be experienced in FLIGHT for those who have never experienced the Golden Age of Flight. There are so many possibilities, the local scenery is a good idea that allows FLIGHT to perform the way it does. So, many of the adventure packs may have to have either selective versions, or keep a number of the events close together. Saying that FLIGHT has no potential is total hog wash. |
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Post by Tom Constantine on Mar 21, 2012 16:24:25 GMT -5
I posted your idea over on the beta forum John and added the paragraph below. I'll be interested to see what kind of reaction it gets.
"This seems like a no-brainer to me. Since the DLC flying areas appear to be discrete modules, why not some historic "Flights?" Besides AirCoaster's Air Mail idea above, the Reims Air Race seems a natural: "August 22-29 1909 Grand Week of the Champagne at Reims, France. This was the first major international air race, drawing many of the most important plane makers and pilots of the era, as well as celebrities and royalty. The premier event — the Gordon Bennett Trophy — was won by Glenn Curtiss, who beat second place finisher Louis Blériot by five seconds. Curtiss was named "Champion Air Racer of the World". -Wikipedia"
Or, how about regressing the already existing Hawaii to the mid 30s with Inter-Island Airways Sikorskys and lots of Navy & AAF activity.
There's probably a lot of others too. What do you think?
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Post by luisfeliztirado on Mar 21, 2012 17:53:56 GMT -5
I like you guys! ;D
Best regards.
Luis
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Post by AirCoaster on Mar 22, 2012 12:41:48 GMT -5
Keep us posted on the results Tom, any at all, and the feedback from the post. Thanks for sending this along to the team.
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Post by Tom Constantine on Mar 22, 2012 13:11:40 GMT -5
Two additional ideas have emerged so far, sky diving and ballooning. Sky diving would be a great addon feature usable in any scenery and could be in conjunction with giving us a solid body to walk around the airplane. I think the ballooning could be a great package with scenery of New Hampshire & Vermont and a variety of hot air balloon paint jobs. Imagine multi-player sessions where we all gather at Stowe and light 'em up. Take off and let the wind carry us until the propane is gone. Picture 16 balloons strung out over the Green Mountain ski resorts...  Could also have simple up/down controls for the kids. |
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Post by AirCoaster on Mar 28, 2012 14:52:45 GMT -5
I'm with ya on those suggestions
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Could also have simple up/down controls for the kids.