New aircraft tomorrow.

[Tom Constantine]

Mitsubishi A6M2 Zero

Basic model (no cockpit like the P-51)

No idea on price yet.

[luisfeliztirado]

Oh, well... the whole point of DLC is that you can pick and choose, and I guess I won't be picking this one. I'll save my money for something I really like ... a SPAD or a Nieuport, if it's a combat airplane. ;D

Best regards.
Luis

[mike62]

I am going to pass on all of the basic aircraft. I will save my money for Alaska.

[Tom Constantine]

Mar 27, 2012 18:48:01 GMT -5 mike62 said:

I am going to pass on all of the basic aircraft. I will save my money for Alaska.

Me too. Although I would not buy the Zero even with a cockpit. If you'll pardon the pun I have zero interest. I will instead buy a locomotive for Railworks 3

[kabronicus]

I guess the only course of action it to wait for Alaska.....
I'm utterly disappointed. The Zero adds cero to Flight at this moment. Bad, bad timing?

[beana51]

The ZERO??? Pearl Harbor??....Wonder if this marketing is for the Japanese Sim world!..Historically speaking!
Planes with out Cockpits may attract the RC guys....For Flight to really appeal,ALASKA is going to have to be a MAX EFFORT...We Shall See!

[grizzly (Alex)]

What is the point or reasoning behind the No Cockpit thing? Please don't think I am being inflammatory.

[Deleted]

Oh boy. I'm still not convinced at all by this concept. Despite the soft words it doesn't look as though MS are going out of their way to calm the fears of the 'hardened' simmers does it? (And what I don't like either is how I get the impression that for some the use of the description 'simmer' seems almost derogatory when it comes to Flight). How many guys here would get out of bed to download for free an aircraft without a cockpit for the other sims they're running on their PCs? Put your hands up ..... yeah, I thought so. And MS expect people to pay for it? It's pretty clear now I think who this 'game' is really aimed at ie the 'new blood', the less sophisticated 'gamers' who they hope will know no better.

I've never bought one of those monthly 'part work' magazines that start off with a free gift with part one and ends up finally costing you a king's ransom for a plastic dinosaur kit that your wife makes you throw away. Call me cynical if you want, but it seems to me that if you cut through the marketing hype, Flight is just an extension of the same concept.

To an extent my outlook is coloured by my attitude towards MS which is not a company at the top of my 'to trust' list I'm afraid (I'm running Windows 7 on my Core 2 Quad PC and it fails to play nicely with almost any other software including other MS products and especially FSX and Flight to the point that it's effectively unusable and according to the Internet, I'm not alone..). So I'm delighted that you guys who are enjoying the ride are doing just that but I don't think that I'll be jumping on board any time just yet. I guess I'm just not a member of the target market

Roger

PS - I'm sure from what folks say on here that Flight is a very enjoyable program and I'm not disagreeing with that. But for me the concept itself is just too open-ended to get me on board. I get the idea of buying something that's 'finished' and then 'improving' it in ways that I want just as we've always done. I can't get the idea of buying into something that is by it's very nature 'incomplete' and then paying month by month to acquire more bits of it without ever knowing what's coming, having any choice in the matter and not knowing whether it'll suit me or not when it's delivered.

[luisfeliztirado]

this 'game' is really aimed at ie the 'new blood', the less sophisticated 'gamers'

Hello Roger,

It's strange that people are still surprised at this. MGS has been saying it since the very start; they want "new blood" and they will do what it takes to get it.

Why? Because FS has failed at enlarging the user base. FS has essentially stagnated when the entire games segment has taken off. Growth in games is astonishing even when the rest of the industry is in crisis. Except for games like FS.

What is surprising is that MGS has still made a flight game that can be flown like a good sim, even when the content is so limited. They could have completely abandoned the market in favor of a more popular title.

The airplanes do look great and fly very well, the extremely limited weather is stunning as is the scenery, and all the activities are pilot related. There is no gaming aspect, such as a first-person shooter or a role playing game would have.

So many of the people who refuse Flight have simply not tried it and won't. That's fine, but how can we value that kind of judgment? Those of us who do like it do so because we have tried it, looked at it from all aspects, and found it to be good in spite of the glaring limitations.

There is a lot missing as far as content goes, and the target for Flight is very different from FS (as the Zero clearly shows), but everybody has known this for a long time.

Best regards.
Luis

[Deleted]

Hi Luis, too often people assume that those who have a negative attitude towards Flight haven't tried it. I think that they are being naive and that it can be assumed that most of those who are negative have taken the trouble to do so. You may be surprised to know that not all of us find it 'stunning' and 'addictive'. I found it rather boring after flying around in what I can only describe as a very limited way and thought it astonishing that on that basis, MS then expected me to shell out cash in an open-ended way while promising me virtually nothing! So I kept my cash in my pocket and because I expected nothing have not been disappointed. I still haven't seen anything that I personally think is worth acquiring, but that's just my opinion. But please don't do me the disservice of assuming that just because I don't like Flight, the problem must be me. I am perhaps a bit more discerning than some about how I plan to disburse my cash over the long term and at this stage I do not regard MS on current showings as being a worthy recipient of it. You clearly disagree and that's fine by me. It seems to me as time goes on that it is the fans of Flight who are the less tolerant and not the other way round.

Roger

PS BTW, I'm really glad that you and others are enjoying your experiences of Flight and wish everyone well

[pathfinder1]

I just need to ask one question: When I log into Microsoft Flight.com, the news letter I can read all the comments on certain subjects but for the life of me I can not figure out how to leave my own comments....Call me blond, but how in gods green earth to I enter my own disparging remarks?

Brian

[AirCoaster]

Let's see, this thread starts off annoucing information regarding future aircraft that may be available. And ends as if we are in those other forums pissing and moaning over why we like FLIGHT and why we don't. Geez Tom, it's almost like you aren't suppose to inform the crew here as to what may be available for FLIGHT without the thread heading towards a flaming match, or what is and what could never be about FLIGHT.

I think using some proper selection of forum threads when voicing ones opinion on FLIGHT would be in order here. To blast the base product everytime an add-on is announced is not only BS, but also very childish. I think voicing one's opinion on the main point of the thread is much more productive.

[luisfeliztirado]

please don't do me the disservice of assuming that just because I don't like Flight, the problem must be me.

Thank you, Roger. I try never to take any of this very seriously, and I suppose neither do you, since, as you mentioned, it's just a game.

And I never make any personal accusations, or ad hominem attacks because our hobby is supposed to be about a community having fun.

So, please note that at no time did I accuse you of not having tried Flight, of having an unjustified opinion, of being close-minded. In fact, I never mentioned you at all.

So, please do not do me the disservice of accusing me of that. And let's leave it at that.

Whether you find it "stunning" or "addictive" (which by the way I did not write) is your business entirely and I would not berate you for it, so I don't expect to be disparaged for having my own personal opinion.

Best regards.
Luis