No Tri-Pacer Panels

[speedywings]

Hi, Sim-type Folken!

I'm a new kid on the block - well, not so new

I downloaded Lynn and Bill's Apache and Tri-Pacer and took them for a test flight. Unfortunately, none of the panels for the Tri-Pacer were installed by the Installer for any of the models. Models, Sounds, and Textures are there and the Panel.cfg files, but none of the supporting files. I was able to fly the planes with the second W gauges, but it was disconcerting to have no panels

A second, but related question. I have just started really flying the amphibs, but have no idea where the waterports(?) are in FS9. Is there a listing somewhere or do they need to be installed from 3rd party packages?

TIA

[speedywings]

Just downloaded the Luscombe Model 8 from AVSIM. Same problem as the TriPacer - no panels or VC. Flies great, but it's like hanging on the nose

[Roger]

Hmmm,
As this has happened twice it sounds like an installation problem. When you open up the aircraft folders, is there a folder named 'panel' and is there anything in the folder? The vc is modelled in the aircraft. From memory neither had a 2d panel as Bill stopped including them as the vc was more than adequate for the purpose.

Welcome btw

Roger

[speedywings]

Hi, Roger,

Thanks for the reply and welcome.

All Luscombe and Tri-Pacer directories have panel subdirectories. Each contains a panel.cfg file that refers to non-existant panel bitmaps.

I found what I think are the gauge files in the Gauges directory.

I did a reinstall of both models, but with no better results. If the installer were a self-installing zip file, I could dig the needed files out, but a formal installer makes that hard. Is there a list of files in the installers so I can search for the missing ones in case they were miss-installed?

Any help would be appreciated.

[jordonj]

Sounds like you installed to a directory, then did a manual install...

If so, just let the installer do its job...it's not like a big monster that's gonna bite you.


Screenshots would help by the way...

[motormouse]

Like Roger says above,Bill did not put a 2d panel in the Pa22 , it is designed to be flown only from the Virtual Cockpit view.

I have the Pa 22, and the panel.cfg looks like this



[Window Titles]
Window00=Main
Window01=Radio
Window02=GPS
Window03=Virtual Plus

[VIEWS]
VIEW_FORWARD_WINDOWS=0
VIEW_FORWARD_DIR=2.5, 0.0, 0.0


[Window00]
position=7
size_mm=631,473
child_3d=1
background_color=0,0,0
ident=Main
gauge00=


[Window01]
BACKGROUND_COLOR=2,2,2
size_mm=156,308
window_size_ratio=1.0
position=8
visible=0
ident=RADIO_STACK_PANEL

gauge00=Bendix_King_Radio!Bendix-King Radio Audio, 0, 0
gauge01=Bendix_King_Radio!Bendix-King Radio Nav-Comm 1, 0, 29
gauge02=Bendix_King_Radio!Bendix-King Radio Nav-Comm 2, 0, 86
gauge03=Bendix_King_Radio!Bendix-King Radio ADF, 0, 142
gauge04=Bendix_King_Radio!Bendix-King Radio DME, 0, 180
gauge05=Bendix_King_Radio!Bendix-King Radio Xpndr, 0, 217
gauge06=Bendix_King_Radio!Bendix-King Radio AP, 0, 262

[Window02]
size_mm=150,250
position=8
BACKGROUND_COLOR=16,16,16
VISIBLE=0
ident=GPS_PANEL
gauge00=gps!gps,0,0,150,250

[Window03]
file=check
size_mm=130,20
position=0
visible=0
window_size_ratio=1.000
background_color=0,0,0
ident=372

gauge00=pa22!moveleft,0,0,20,20
gauge01=pa22!moveright,21,0,20,20
gauge02=pa22!movefore,42,0,20,20
gauge03=pa22!moveback,63,0,20,20
gauge04=pa22!moveup,84,0,20,20
gauge05=pa22!movedown,105,0,20,20





[VCockpit01]
size_mm=1024,1024
pixel_size=1024,1024
texture=$pan1
background_color=0,0,0
visible=0
gauge00=pa22!ahi, 0,896, 128, 128
gauge01=pa22!gyro_comp,128, 896, 128,128
gauge02=pa22!asi,256,896,128,128
gauge03=pa22!vsi,384,896,128,128
gauge04=pa22!turn,512,896,128,128
gauge05=pa22!clock,640,896,128,128
gauge06=pa22!altimeter,768,896,128,128
gauge07=Cessna172!Tachometer,896,896,128,128
gauge08=pa22!manifold_pressure,0,768,128,128
gauge09=pa22!oil,128,768,128,128
gauge10=pa22!fuell,256,768,128,128
gauge11=pa22!fuelr,384,768,128,128
gauge12=pa22!ammeter,512,768,128,128
gauge13=Cessna!VOR1,640,768,128,128
gauge14=collins_av,768,768,128,128
gauge15=pgpslc,896,768,128,128
gauge16=Cessna182s!VOR2, 0,640, 128, 128
gauge17=Cessna!ADF,128, 640, 128,128
gauge18=radiocd22!radiocd,256,640,128,128
gauge19=pa22!ignition,384,640,128,128
gauge20=pa22!battalt,512,640,128,128
gauge21=pa22!navlights,640,640,128,128
gauge22=pa22!landinglights,768,640,128,128
gauge23=pa22!primer,896,640,128,128
gauge24=pa22!deice,0,512,128,128
gauge25=pa22!compass,128,512,128,128
gauge26=pa22!nnumbert,256,512,200,50
gauge27=pa22!doors,384,512,128,128
gauge28=pa22!fuelselect,512,512,128,128
gauge29=pa22!flaps,640,512,128,128
gauge30=pa22!trim,768,512,128,128
gauge31=pa22!kneeboard,896,512,128,128
gauge32=pa22!map, 0,384, 128, 128
gauge33=pa22!radiostack,128, 384, 128,128
gauge34=pa22!gps,256,384,128,128
gauge35=pa22!virtualplus,384,384,128,128
gauge36=pa22!towbar,512,384,128,128
gauge37=pa22!maplight,640,384,128,128
gauge38=pa22!sump,768,384,128,128
gauge39=pa22!OAT,896,384,128,128
gauge40=pa22!service,0,256,128,128
gauge41=pa22!oilcheck,128,256,128,128
gauge42=pa22!pushback,256,256,128,128
gauge43=pa22!fuelpump,384,256,128,128
gauge44=pa22!pass,512,256,128,128
gauge45=pa22!rain5,640,256,128,128
gauge46=pa22!mixture,768,256,128,128
gauge47=pa22!atc,896,256,128,128
gauge48=vent, 0,128, 128, 128
gauge49=pa22!park,128, 128, 128,128
gauge50=ps1,256,128,128,128
gauge51=pa22!asi,384,128,128,128
gauge52=pa22!gear,512,128,128,128
gauge53=pa22song1!switch,640,128,128,128
gauge54=pa22!nnumbern,768,128,256,100
gauge55=//none,896,128,128,128
gauge56=pa22song2!switch,0,0,128,128
gauge57=pa22song3!switch,128,0,128,128
gauge58=//pa22!fuell,256,0,128,128
gauge59=//pa22!fuelr,384,0,128,128
gauge60=//pa22!ammeter,512,0,128,128
gauge61=//Cessna!VOR1,640,0,128,128
gauge62=//collins_av,768,0,128,128
gauge63=//pgpslc,896,0,128,128









//[VCockpit01]
//size_mm=512,512
//pixel_size=1024,1024
//texture=$512A
//background_color=0,0,0
//visible=0
//gauge00=pa22!ahi, 0,384, 128, 128
//gauge01=pa22!gyro_comp,128, 384, 128,128
//gauge02=pa22!asi,256,384,128,128
//gauge03=pa22!vsi,384,384,128,128
//gauge04=pa22!turn,0,256,128,128
//gauge05=pa22!clock,128,256,128,128
//gauge06=pa22!altimeter,256,256,128,128
//gauge07=Cessna172!Tachometer,384,256,128,128
//gauge08=pa22!manifold_pressure,0,128,128,128
//gauge09=pa22!oil,128,128,128,128
//gauge10=pa22!fuell,256,128,128,128
//gauge11=pa22!fuelr,384,128,128,128
//gauge12=pa22!ammeter,0,0,128,128
//gauge13=Cessna!VOR1,128,0,128,128
//gauge14=collins_av,256,0,128,128
//gauge15=pgpslc,384,0,128,128

//[VCockpit02]
//size_mm=512,512
//pixel_size=1024,1024
//texture=$512B
//background_color=0,0,0
//visible=0
//gauge00=Cessna182s!VOR2, 0,384, 128, 128
//gauge01=Cessna!ADF,128, 384, 128,128
//gauge02=radiocd22!radiocd,256,384,128,128
//gauge03=pa22!ignition,384,384,128,128
//gauge04=pa22!battalt,0,256,128,128
//gauge05=pa22!navlights,128,256,128,128
//gauge06=pa22!landinglights,256,256,128,128
//gauge07=pa22!primer,384,256,128,128
//gauge08=pa22!deice,0,128,128,128
//gauge09=pa22!compass,128,128,128,128
//gauge10=//pa22!fuell,256,128,128,128
//gauge11=//pa22!fuelr,384,128,128,128
//gauge12=//pa22!ammeter,0,0,128,128
//gauge13=//Cessna!VOR1,128,0,128,128
//gauge14=//collins_av,256,0,128,128
//gauge15=//pgpslc,384,0,128,128










//[VCockpit03]
//size_mm=512,512
//pixel_size=1024,1024
//texture=$512C
//background_color=0,0,0
//visible=0
//gauge00=pa22!nnumberr, 0,0, 512, 200



Day=255,255,255
Night=82,40,40
Luminous=255,255,255

[Default View]
X=0
Y=0
SIZE_X=8192
SIZE_Y=6144



This section refers to the Virtual Cockpit



[VCockpit01]
size_mm=1024,1024
pixel_size=1024,1024
texture=$pan1



the "texture=$pan1" refers to a texture that is part of the model .mdl file, which is why you won't see it in the panel folder.

Hope this helps.

Pete

[speedywings]

Boy, did that one go by. Since I have never used the VC, I didn't really associate it with an alternative to a 2D panel. Both have one, of course, and both work fine now that I know what's happening. It will take some getting used to, but my thumb fits fine on the hat switch and maneuvers well, so even though I don't have Active Camera for outside, inside works OK. I'll give the VC some more time and also with other A/C that have it to see whether I like it.

Thanx much, motormouse, for clearing things up. Off I go :-)

[motormouse]

I know what you mean, I was a VC novice until I started 'flying' Bill's wonderful creations.

happy landings

Pete

(2d panel designer RSDG Lake Renegade Fs2002 version)

[ejoiner]

I love Bills Tri Pacer. But anybody know how to get the pilot to appear? Normally with Bills Stuff its the / key. With this plane though you dont get a pilot with that key...either freight or pax.

Eric

[p3superbee]

ejoiner said:

how to get the pilot to appear?

Strobe Light key - "O"

[Kofi]

ejoiner said:

I love Bills Tri Pacer. But anybody know how to get the pilot to appear? Normally with Bills Stuff its the / key. With this plane though you dont get a pilot with that key...either freight or pax.

Eric

FYI.....Click the passenger seat to get the co-pilot/kids and/or cargo to appear

Kofi