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Post by Keith on Apr 27, 2008 16:19:13 GMT -5
Does anyone know of a good tutorial on making routes for EA Rail Sim? Also, aside from trainsim.com is there another place that offers any routes to download? I am getting bored with the very few U.S. routes in the game.
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Post by bhk on Apr 28, 2008 1:00:38 GMT -5
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Post by Keith on Apr 28, 2008 10:00:12 GMT -5
Thanks Bruce. Yes, it looks like routes will be scarce for this version just as they were way back with I used MSTS. That's why I am looking to make some routes for myself. I may make a southern route running from Texas to Georgia. With al the wetlands that should be a nice routes with plenty of small towns and loads of bridges.
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Post by bhk on Apr 29, 2008 2:23:10 GMT -5
Thanks Bruce. Yes, it looks like routes will be scarce for this version just as they were way back with I used MSTS. .... I think maybe even scarcer, Keith. Until Trainz entered the arena, MSTS was the only all-encompassing train sim available, and developers jumped at the chance to create for it. From what I've gathered, since KRS' release, a lot of prospective route developers are (a) very critical of the process required to create prototypical routes and/or are (b) sitting back waiting for MSTS2, particularly those who have done routes for MSTS1. I have a feeling of deja vu here in that once MSTS2 is released we will see a similar faction fight as occurred between MSTS1 and Trainz. Bruce
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Post by Keith on Apr 29, 2008 21:29:05 GMT -5
Could be. Once MSTS2 is released I will give it a try and will choose the sim I like best. I really did like MSTS1 but after so much time passed with no updates the sim got a bit dated. I love KRS but if MSTS2 is better and has more addons I will most likely move to that one. I hope that MSTS2 will allow you to start the sim with time of day, weather, season etc. like FS does. That would be a nice change. I have a feeling that MSTS2 will have many more routes, trains options etc. than KRS does.
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Post by bhk on Apr 30, 2008 0:03:37 GMT -5
..... I hope that MSTS2 will allow you to start the sim with time of day, weather, season etc. like FS does. That would be a nice change. I have a feeling that MSTS2 will have many more routes, trains options etc. than KRS does. From what I've been learning, I have a feeling that you might be right on both counts, Keith. Bruce
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Post by Dan on May 2, 2008 2:19:46 GMT -5
I'm really sorry to hear this Keith! Not that your thinking about creating a new route, but that it's for the wrong sim! That route - from Texas to George sounds fantastic! I would love to have it, but for MSTS 1 . . . I know - selfish me, but that's the sim I plan on running for the foreseeable future, since it does everything I want a train sim to do and has lots and lots of add-ons already - many of excellent quality. So, at least I can say I'll be watching your creativity take hold and dream of a backward compatible conversion miracle along the way. Dan P.S. Not sure what sim you were speaking of, but you can set the time/date/weather for MSTS 1. . . . it's great being a kid again - without the glue
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Post by Keith on May 2, 2008 7:26:28 GMT -5
Yes but since I have so many irons in the fire (as they say) my route may take longer to make than Rail Sim is even around. I will mostl likely wait till MSTS2 comes out and see what's up with that one.
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Post by kbr on May 6, 2008 1:31:56 GMT -5
...Yes, it looks like routes will be scarce for this version... I share your frustration in the lack of material for KRS. KRS hasn't gotten a whole lot of use on my system for this reason. I was hoping that when the drivers for Raildriver came out for KRS it would make it seem new again, but having been on the beta team for the drivers, I no longer have high hopes for the drivers. When I was testing them there was like a 10 to 20 second laps between when I used a control and when it actually happened in the sim. It seemed clear to me that PI isn't going to put much stock into listening to their beta team when they threw me off the beta team for reporting the above. At the moment I've returned to using MSTS as my main train sim. I truly hope that things fair better with MSTS2.
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Post by bhk on May 6, 2008 5:19:31 GMT -5
..... It seemed clear to me that PI isn't going to put much stock into listening to their beta team when they threw me off the beta team for reporting the above..... WH-A-A-A-T?!!! How strange! Fancy dropping someone because they report an unacceptable situation! You obviously didn't tell them what they wanted to hear, Kevin. Bruce
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Post by Keith on Jun 6, 2008 16:42:27 GMT -5
That stinks Kevin. I thought that what beta testing was all about. Sorry that happened to you. Well, KRS got me back into rail simming. I like it but with no support for rail driver or other controllers added to the lack of add-ons it is getting old now. Maybe MSTS2 will be a hit.
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Post by kbr on Jun 12, 2008 0:46:37 GMT -5
Thanks, Bruce and Keith. I was a bit disapointed in PI about that. That was back at the beginning of April when that happened, but they've yet to announce even a release date for the drivers on their site, so I guess they realized they couldn't release the drivers in it's current state.
I have to admit that I had high hopes for KRS too, but with lack of any new content, it's just been sitting unused on my hard drive these days. It has great potential and could have went far if the third party designers had embraced it.
I've have been currently saving up with hope to make the move to a Core2 system before the years out, so if things work out, I ought to be able to take a serious look MSTS2 when it comes out. (That is if it will support XP as I don't have any plans to make the move to Vista.)
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Post by kbr on Jun 12, 2008 16:06:37 GMT -5
I just got a letter asking me to test the latest version of the RD drivers for KRS, so perhaps they didn't kick me off after all. Perhaps they just wanted to suspend testing until they work out the current bugs and I missunderstood. I'm not going to go back on the testing team right now because I am too busy with other stuff, but it's good to know PI hasn't given up on Rail Simulator. If they can get Raildriver working well with Rail Simulator it may increase public interest in the simulator which could be a very good thing and maybe even lead to some addons for the sim.
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Post by bhk on Jun 13, 2008 18:26:29 GMT -5
Kevin, Maybe they pulled the plug on the initial program and, as you mention, started from scratch. Interesting to note also that Auran have Trainz2009 in the works and also something called Trainz Simulator X (which I assume is a working title). They will need to dump the Jet engine with these - it's too old now (2000). forums.auran.com/trainz/showthread.php?t=26854Bruce
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Post by kbr on Jun 24, 2008 5:27:51 GMT -5
Bruce, I agree, it's about time they started on a new engine for the sim as it is starting to show it's age. Even if they don't, I'll probably check it out I've had a lot of fun with Auran's simulators. ;D Thanks for the HU, I hadn't been aware any more versions were being released.
I got a letter from PI the other day informing that they had just released the first version of the Raildriver drivers for KRS. I haven't checked it out yet as I don't currently have KRS installed and I haven't felt up to spending very much time at the computer at the moment. But I downloaded the drivers and am planning to check it out to see if they did fix the problems.
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