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Post by 314clipper on Aug 9, 2006 21:01:41 GMT -5
More pics from "the lost Luft Hansa archives"! ;D Berlin Tempelhof apron, late 1930s Front Row (L-R): Junkers Ju 160 D-UVOX Rotfuchs, Ju 160 D-UMEX Panther, Junkers G 24 D-UMUR ÖsterreichSecond Row (L-R): Junkers G 24 D-URIS Essen, G 24 D-UPOP Bayern, Ju 52/3m D-AXOP (w/n J5189) Third Row: Junkers Ju 52/3m, Junkers W 33 ? Anyone care to guess what the twin box-tail thingy is in the foreground? Savoia-Marchetti S.M.75 of the Hungarian airline Malert at Tempelhof. The airline used the S.M.75 in the late 1930s to serve routes from Budapest to Berlin and other European cities. Junkers Ju 52/3m D-AJAO Robert Weinhard at Flughafen Rhein-Main Frankfurt Flughafen Hamburg circa 1933 Terminal Building at Flughafen Halle-Leipzig Blohm & Voss Ha 139 at Swinemünde Dornier Do 26 at Friedrichshafen Dornier Do 18D-1 D-ARUN Zephir (w/n 663) after the first North Atlantic mail crossing to New York in September 1936. From left- Flight Engineer Eger, Flugkapitan Count Schack, Flugkapitan Blankenburg, Radio Operator Ehlberg. Zephir first flew on 16 July 1936. It was delivered to DLH on 25 August 1936. In 1939 it was withdrawn from use, later serving with the Luftwaffe. Dinner service aboard the massive Junkers G 38. Only two were built. The four-engined aircraft accomodated 26 passengers in the main cabin, with additional seating for two passengers in the nose and six in the wings. Windows in the leading edges allowed an unobstructed view forward for those seated in the wing cabins. Wayne ;D
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Post by foxwolfen on Aug 9, 2006 21:17:39 GMT -5
Goes to show just how far ahead they (The Germans) were in AC design eh?
I want that Zephir (if thats the right one... the one with the pilots standing in front of the seaplane second from bottom) she is stunning.
On the one above you can see the bend/trust flex in the props. I will have to remember that for my screenshots.
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Post by lifejogger on Aug 9, 2006 22:45:49 GMT -5
Those pictures are priceless, a record of aviation history. They are also a scenery makers dream. A scenery designer could use those pictures to model some great buildings.
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Post by bhk on Aug 9, 2006 22:48:00 GMT -5
Wonderful photos, Wayne. I love old transport pix with people in them.......makes them seem more "human", if you know what I mean.
I'm trying to recall who the bloke is featured in the photograph hanging on the wall of the Ju G.38. Is it Hindenburg?
The chap in window seat on the right looks a bit shady to me.........and I wonder what is so interesting on the little piece of paper that the two in the background are reading?
Bruce
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Post by windrunner on Aug 10, 2006 4:45:27 GMT -5
Thanks again Wayne. The Sm 75's pic looks so modern, with some colors and immagination, it could be at the Airliners.net pages. Unfortunately, I don't know what's that box-tail. The HA 139 is an unknown plane to me, and a really interesting design.
(Bruce, that guy looks am undercover agent to me....)
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Post by lholmes on Aug 10, 2006 10:37:24 GMT -5
Is the twin-box tail thingy a Junkers G31 perhaps?
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Post by foxwolfen on Aug 10, 2006 12:14:20 GMT -5
Thanks again Wayne. The Sm 75's pic looks so modern, with some colors and immagination, it could be at the Airliners.net pages. Unfortunately, I don't know what's that box-tail. The HA 139 is an unknown plane to me, and a really interesting design. (Bruce, that guy looks am undercover agent to me....) LOL - Gestapo? : Dokumente Bitte? Mit Danke. Cheers Shad
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Post by klaus on Aug 10, 2006 12:24:28 GMT -5
Wayne,
thanks for sharing this aviational treasure !
Klaus
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Post by 314clipper on Aug 11, 2006 0:09:02 GMT -5
After careful examination under a magnifying glass, I do believe you are right, Bruce! Thank you, lholmes! That one was bugging me! ;D Thanks, Wayne
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Post by 314clipper on Aug 11, 2006 1:13:58 GMT -5
Berlin Tempelhof, 3 July 1931. The aircraft is the first of only two Junkers G 38s built, D-2000 Deutschland (w/n 3301). It had entered service only two days before on the Berlin-Hanover-Amsterdam-London route. No wonder there is a crowd! This aircraft was re-registered as D-AZUR in 1934, and crashed during a test flight at Dessau in 1936. The remaining G 38 was pressed into Luftwaffe service during the war, to be destroyed in a bomb raid at Athens. Blohm & Voss Ha 139 D-AMIE Nordmeer (w/n 181) preparing to depart Travemünde on Germany's Baltic coast for a flight to Lisbon. Two Ha 139s and one Ha 139B were built, serving Deutsche Luft Hansa's North Atlantic route between Horta and New York beginning in 1937. Depot ships MS Schwabenland and MS Friesenland were stationed at each end of the route to provide a catapult launch, which allowed for a higher gross weight takeoff. Flights across the North Atlantic continued through 1938. In 1939, the Ha 139s were used for a short time in the South Atlantic. At 38,690 lbs MTOW when using a catapult, the Ha 139 was the largest floatplane ever built, nearly as large as the Empire C-class flying boats. Ha 139B D-ASTA Nordstern (w/n 217), the third and slightly heavier Ha 139, is launched from the catapult of MS Schwabenland, circa 1938. Flugkapitän Graf Schack flying the Nordmeer over Portugal. Flugkapitän Graf Schack plots the Nordmeer's position over the North Atlantic. View into the pilot's compartment of the Ha 139 Nordmeer: radio operator Kuppers (left) and flight engineer Gruschwitz (right) at their stations aft of the pilots. Flugmaschinisten (flight engineer) panel of the Ha 139. Working on one of the Ha 139's four 600hp Jumo 205C diesel engines. Berlin Staaken, 10 August 1938. Focke-Wulf Fw 200 Condor D-ACON departs Staaken airfield for its record non-stop flight to New York's Floyd Bennett Field. This flight signalled the beginning of the end for the commercial flying boat, as it demonstrated the effectiveness of landplanes for extended overwater flights. Interior of the Focke-Wulf Fw 200 Condor. This was when first class really meant first class! Wayne
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Post by 314clipper on Aug 11, 2006 2:40:30 GMT -5
These are for you, Bruce. Berlin, 13 August 1938. The crew of the Focke-Wulf Fw 200 Condor is welcomed home after their record flight to New York and back. L-R: radio operator Kober, flight engineer Dierberg, flight captain Henke and captain v.Moreau (See previous photo in this thread for shot of aircraft departing Berlin) Wish I could tell you more about the background of the following pictures. Most of the writing on the back is illegible. The first two are marked "Sioux Indians", and the aircraft is a Junkers F 13. The next appears to be a hunting party preparing to board Junkers G 24 D-1016 Thor, later re-registered as D-UMUR Österreich (see first pic of this thread --- D-UMUR is one of the aircraft seen on the Tempelhof apron at a later date). The last shows what appears to be two baby moose next to a Ju 52/3m. Other than that, I haven't a clue. At least they are interesting! ;D Wayne
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Post by bhk on Aug 11, 2006 4:08:05 GMT -5
I am just flabbergasted by these pix! Absolutely fabulous and they deserve to be published in some way. Just picking out a few interesting aspects ........ The photo taken from the rooftop garden at Templehof.....what were a group of Asian and/or African gentlemen doing there??? Were they officials from embassies? What was their role in that day's proceedings? Fascinating! The second pic of the two looking forward from behind the pilots....that engineer is peering intently at those gauges! Have a look at the needles in the gauges in the third row...they are in a different position from that in the preceding photo. Engine revs? Fuel quantity? Running low on coffee? The welcome-home of the Condor crew......the young lady behind Moreau is probably young enough to still be alive today, as is the youngster in the top right-hand corner. Everybody else whose face is distinguishable has more than likely exited this life. A sobering thought, isn't it....all those happy, smiling faces except two are but ghosts from the past. And as for the Sioux indian in that first pic which features him, isn't that just a fantastic photo?! Look at his wonderful face.......that man was probably at the Battle of Little Big Horn! Wonderful photos, Wayne. Oh...and thanks for verifying von Hindenburg for me. Bruce
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Post by windrunner on Aug 11, 2006 6:38:34 GMT -5
The HA139 is a fascinating design, does someone knows Mr Hauke Keitel phone number? he could be insterested...
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Post by foxwolfen on Aug 11, 2006 12:20:07 GMT -5
This place is developer heaven. My gosh guys! The photo's here are beyond belief. Details upion details upon details... about people, the look, the time ... *holds head trying to keep brains inside*
Wow.
It gives me so much information for improving my "reproductions" and making FS models look real. Love em!
Cheers Shad
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Post by cptroyce on Aug 11, 2006 15:35:51 GMT -5
Bruce- >> The photo taken from the rooftop garden at Templehof.....what were a group of Asian and/or African gentlemen doing there??? Were they officials from embassies? What was their role in that day's proceedings?<<
I noticed the same thing..photo date is July 1931, and clearly the man in the hat looking into the camera (hands clasped behind his back with military bearing) and the two men in front appear to be Japanese. Two months later Japan invaded Manchuria.
Also the photo from August 1938..Welcome home to Berlin for the Condor..photo is filled with Nazi military..and just in the upper right quardrant of the crowd is a tall man who is again clearly is from teh British Military..Austria had recently been annexed and appeasment seemed to be going well.
What is fascinating, to me anyway, is the unposed, casual, "snapshot" quality of these pictures.
Quite a trove!
Regards, Royce
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